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Jonathan Bastian talks with Ryan Holiday, speaker and author of “Discipline is Destiny: The Power of Self Control,” about how, in today’s world of abundance and freedom, self discipline is a key tool in leading a good life. Later, Katy Milkman, professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School and author of “How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be,” discusses the science behind habits, and how we can adopt and stick with better practices and kick the bad habits.
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